The only lens I've used thats better is an optrel, and that's a $700 hood. This lens is top notch, and never leaves me with eye fatigue, even when I have my shade too low for the application or while welding in the pitch dark. I'm going to try the V pro as soon as it arrives but after over a year with this lens I can confidently say you cannot do better for the money. And stop burning your fucking eyeballs out on those tefuawe lenses. The vision is clear but using someone else's tefuawe after using this lens feels like i'm staring directly into the sun. And yes, it does work for stick welding.